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History of a German Giant
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Gustav & Bob's amazing adventure

 

 

 

 Alex I Askaroff

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Frister & Rossmann

Throughout Great Britain and the Colonies


1888 Advert

Frister & Rossmann started life near Berlin, Germany, in 1864 but by 1865 Gustav Rossmann had moved his workshops from Markgrafenstrasse in Berlin to Adalbertstrasse and then in 1868 to Skalitzerstrasse where they stayed for many years. Boy was that hard spelling. It gets easier from here.

Now let me take you on a tangled journey of one of the most famous names in the sewing industry. Headache so get the pills ready...here we go.

The two business partners, Gustav Rossmann and Robert Frister had started their sewing machine business by copying existing machines such as the American Wheeler & Wilson and Willcox & Gibbs under licence from the original manufacturers in America.

 


Frister & Rossmann Model A Circa 1865 made under licence from Wheeler & Wilson in the USA

Their first sewing machine, the A1 was simply a Wheeler & Wilson clone machine, boy would I love one of those. However its success was unsurpassed, hardly changing for around 50 years or production


Frister & Rossmann model A needleplate info.
Actien Gesellschaft apparently means Public Company, thanks.

The potential for European sewing machines was huge and the wealth of entrepreneurs like Elias Howe and Isaac Singer were well known. They were the Bill Gates of the Victorian age. The only problem with the American machines were that they were across the other side of the world and shipping was time consuming and expensive. European manufacturers had a clear advantage in price.

The Frister & Rossmann business grew at an outstanding rate and within a few years, they had produced tens of thousands of hand-built machines. Eventually with the success of their venture, a great factory grew at  Skalitzerstrasse. There the chimneys took the smoke that darkened the Berlin sky from the furnaces that ran 24hrs a day seven days a week.

Frister & Rossmann


Early Frister & Rossmann machines came with a beautiful ornate cast base, quite rare today. This transverse fiddlebase model is from Skalitzerstrasse circa1879 and is based on the 1865 Singer 12k.

For decades Frister & Rossmann were the largest producers of sewing machines in Germany. By  the early 1880's they had made a staggering quarter of a million machines and by 1903 the great Frister & Rossmann factory company had produced over one million machines.

 

One million machines! A landmark in F&R history in 1903

Hey slow down Gustav & Bob were business men as well as manufacturers. They did not stop at sewing machines, they turned their expertise to typewriters even bicycles but sewing machines were to last the longest.  

Frister & Rossmann settled down to manufacture high quality sewing machines for many decades. Winning medals in Sydney in 1879, Altona and Crystal Palace, England 1881, Amsterdam, 1883, Teplitz and London again in 1884, Edinburgh, 1886, Adelaide, Australia, 1887, again in Melbourne Australia the following year and the most prized award in their home town of Berlin in 1889.

       

A transverse shuttle F&R circa 1890 based on the Singer 12 and Singer 48k

A few of the early Victorian models that were heavily inlaid with mother of pearl and lavish gold work have become very collectible machines.

Their most popular late Victorian model was based on the Singer New Family machine model 12k also fondly referred to as the Fiddle base due to its curved casting. They made their fist copy of Singers model around the early part of the 1870's. How they got around the patent infringements I can only guess unless they, as before, paid a licence fee! They even advertised their machines as the Improved Singer! Cheeky.

 

The Willcox & Gibbs Clone

WILLCOX & GIBBS

                   

           FRISTER & ROSSMANN


A rare Frister & Rossmann chain stitch

The undisputed best selling chainstitch in the world was the Willcox & Gibbs Chainstitch. Now Gustav & Bob, right from the beginning copied the best machines on the market and they soon turned their gaze toward the pretty bestseller by W&G. Little is known about these rare beauties made by F&R only for a very short period. Frank Godfrey even surmised that F&R hade some of the first castings made by Clemens Muller of Dresden while they were sorting out their foundry for the new castings.

The F&R...W&G's chainstitch clones are scarce machines and only a handful have come to light. I have a picture of one on my site see if you can find it! Because all the models I have seen all have the W&G automatic tensioner brought in in around 1875 we know that the models are post that date. However to add more confusion all the models I have seen have very low serial numbers. I can guess that all the Chainstitch F&R machines must have started their production run at zero and not just joined in on the other machine numbering. If they had they would have been much higher numbers. Frister & Rossmann chainstitch machines are as rare as hens teeth.

The very earliest imported F&R Chain stitch do not even have the F&R logo on them. However there are manufacturing details that are obvious to a specialist. I shall name a few. there are the obvious ones, nickel plated fine cast hand wheel assembly, nickel  plated lower pulley wheel. Porcelain hand knob. Brass auto tension assembly not steel with a  centre screw, brass cotton peg, not steel. all the attachments are also brass. The gold work is slightly cruder with different scroll work. The needlebar and presser bar have pear shaped tops rather than round knobs. Smaller base wing nut, larger needle bar clamp nut. Right I'm getting bored so I expect you are as well. I could go on and on but you get the idea, lots of minor alterations to fit in with their manufacturing and tools.

And so you have it, a little marvel, rare and sweet. The F&R chainstitch had a short life and quickly disappeared. The odd super-rare machine now turn up in collectors collections.


Frister & Rossmann 128 London Wall. Hermann Loog Ltd.

(At 43 London Wall were the importers C Lohmann who sold the Original Elsa lockstitch in 1888)

 

*****

 

Back to business. The first importers into Britain, that I am aware about, was I. Nasch of whom I know absolutely nothing! German production, while he was importer, rose to over 100,000 machines so he must have sold a few in Britain. He disappears quite quickly and I know F&R were having communication problems with their British importers and agents.

So now let's skip to the next fascinating fella!

F&R 1869-1875 serial numbers 1 to 105, 923

Hermann Loog

It was not until Hermann Loog ltd, around 1876, that sales really started to boom in Britain. They traded from 126-128 London Wall, London. I have only seen a couple Loog-badged F&R and neither of them had Hermann's name on them just his trading address.

Hermann had a troubled personal life. His wife died in an asylum, one son died very young and the other emigrated. He seemed to be plagued with lawsuits, including the giant Singer Corporation. Even F&R had to act against him to protect their interests. Although a workaholic and full of ideas he had a fiery temperament which his family politely called 'difficult' that was not successful in business. When not going bankrupt he seemed to be in court suing or being sued by someone!

Hermann allegedly had several sets of books, one special set kept by his son, Robert, for unknown reasons. It all came to a head on the 4th of January 1887 when Scotland Yard tracked Hermann down to a house in Croydon and arrested him. They had been after him for weeks after the German company informed the police that £5,899 had gone astray from the accounts. A massive sum in 1887. They had already caught his son Robert who was banged up in Holloway Prison.

The court case was a huge affair lasting days with Hermann Loog being kept out of the witness box as it was thought that if he was cross examined he would end up with a long jail sentence.

Reading from court statements at one point the court burst into laughter when it heard that Hermann had set up another business to transfer sewing machines to his family. The court was read a list of directors which were his children, Robert Loog, Hermann Loog Jr, Otto Loog, Ella Loog and Catherine Loog. The oldest was only 15 at the time of the set up and the youngest  was just one. Well, your never too young to become a director! When the court asked what directors fees were being paid they were informed that no directors were receiving payment but they had a nice home by the sea in Brighton to live in! The court burst into laughter again.

On a more serious note the sums involved were enormous and the way Hermann ran his business caused a huge rift with the German company who took a long time trusting another importer after replacing Loog.

After his split with F&R Hermann worked for a short while with Seidel & Naumann, another German sewing machine manufacturer. However that did not last and he ended up in court...again!

Shadowed by constant illness and money problems in later life Hermann took a final step.

Hermann wound up his personal affairs wrote a letter leaving his body to science. He dressed smartly as if going to church and walked to the cemetery in Croydon where his wife was buried. Unfortunately due to the ridiculous laws of the time his son who had died so young was not allowed to be buried with her as he had not been christened before his sudden death.

Hermann chatted to the cemetery gardener, went to his wife's grave, sat on the grass by her side took of his hat and shot himself through the head. He was 59.

And so ended a fascinating chapter in the early history of Frister & Rossmann.

This is a great little extra sent in by the great-great-grandson of Hermann Loog, Tom Vogel...

In the Singer lawsuit, which is a significant precedent in British trademark law, Loog was not assessed any damages for advertising his machine as the "Singer Improved."  Second, in the criminal case, Hermann Loog was acquitted as "agent converting property to own use" and discharged;  Robert Loog was acquitted of "omitting material partners from book of masters" and discharged. 

The rest of the story -my grandfather migrated to New York. After Hermann's suicide, Robert Loog migrated to New Orleans. One of his sons, Andrew Loog,  was a U.S. bomber pilot, and was killed in action in WWII.  I believe that his son is Andrew Loog Oldham.

Thanks for that Tom.
 

No let's get away from Hermann and follow on with our journey of F&R.

1875-1896 Serial numbers 105923 to 715233

Frister & Rossmann tried handling the machines themselves directly for a while, appointing their own German directors, but that was not as successful or easy. Basically they were manufacturers not salesmen and after a period they decided to once more trust an agent to import their sewing machines. I expect with much tighter procedures.

Later importer’s were S. Lowe & Son of 49 Fore Street London, who had the rights from around 1886 onward. Lowe may have been in business with O Quitman who we shall get to a little later on in our story. If you look back at the top of our page you will see a large F&R advert from Sewing Machine and Cycle News. The year of the magazine was early 1888 and clearly shows S. Lowe of 49 Fore Street as the Sole Agent fro F&R. Also they were selling their machines as Improved Singer and Wheeler & Wilson machines, cheeky!

Frister & Rossmann

sales throughout Great Britain and her colonies

Now there is some dispute about this next date I reckon that Lowe & Son sold out to the importers and dealers W. Pierssene & Co, the same year as Queen Victoria died in 1901 but some say it was earlier around 1896.

They  also imported to 49 Fore Street just East of the centre of London but then moved down the road to larger premises at 25 Fore Street and held the rights up until the outbreak of WW1.

Of course production of sewing machines stopped during the war. I wonder what they made instead! Bet it wasn't anything pleasant...see what I found below.

1910

Wholesalers for Frister & Rossmann sewing machines

Martin & Fit, Grantham

1896-1914 serial numbers 715233 to 1500000

Coincidentally up until the outbreak of the Great War, most Frister & Rossmann machines were proudly marked MADE IN BERLIN, however after the war all mention of their manufacturing base was removed. Hmm I Wonder why! At this time it was normal for a shop to remove the F&R badge to avoid upsetting customers.

During this period their machine was know as the Silent Cam Action Improved Lockstitch and took the same needle as the Singer 12, needle 339. Agents such as Heelas Sons of Reading and Goward Brothers in Oakham sold the pre-war German machines but soon switched suppliers to British manufacturers after the outbreak of war.

If you have a F&R looking machine with no mention as to where it was made and no badge you probably have one of the post-war models. If you have one with no badge just the holes you can almost guarantee it was surplus unsold war stock from Germany. 

1914-1920 serial numbers 1500000 to 1620000

It has recently come to light that Frister & Rossmann changed from Sewing machine manufacturing to weapons! No wonder nobody in Britain bought a Frister &Rossmann machines after 1914. In the following six years production of sewing machines fell dramatically to less than 20,000 a year.


A rare WWI bayonet made by F&R.

Nor more Berlin Trademark's after the out break of war with Germany  in 1914

Poor old Frister's were in big trouble and from 1914 the following years were hard, laying off staff and cutting production. The 1920's were a time of terrible hardships imposed on Germany by her victors and suppressors. The crippling reparations imposed by foreign powers led to the rise of Hitler in Germany and eventually another World War.

By late 1924 the great factory that had once been the pride of German manufacturing closed its doors. the last man locked the gates and a period of pioneering history was over.

In 1925 Gritzner & Kayser bought the rights to make Frister & Rossmann machines. For a long period all Frister & Rossmann machines were in name only and from the Gritzner factory.

Vickers & Frister's

But we must go back a step. Now funny things happen with history. Just before the outbreak of WWI, Pierssene must have known that importing from Germany, if they went to war, would be difficult if not impossible. Pierssene must have looked around Britain to find another manufacturer to supplement his supplies and keep his market going. During periods of war and the shortages they bring sewing machines are in high demand. His eye fell upon one of Britain's foremost manufacturers. Vickers made loads of stuff from planes to machine guns, ships to bombers. In the Second World War they produced the amazing Supermarine Spitfire, which along with its Merlin Rolls Royce engine helped save England in its darkest hour.

At Vickers handling a sewing machine would be easy and they could see huge potential, not only during the war but after it as well. By 1916 they were well underway with a copy of Singers model 28 VS machine. A sturdy simple machine basically identical to Frister & Rossmann's own copy of Singers best seller. By 1917 the machines were being supplied instead of F&R machines to shops up and down the country.

Frister & Rossmann could not do much about the new competition and Vickers took away a precious market putting another nail in the coffin of poor old Frister & Rossmann.

Now Pierssene funnily enough had left F&R at the outbreak of war. An image of industrial espionage jumps to mind of the former importer running off with the plans of F&R's new machine to Vickers. Either way Vickers was here to stay and Pierssene was their sole agent. Note the address on the picture below right, Fore Street London.

During the 1920's and 30's Vickers Sewing Machines flourished but by the late 1930's demand was so high for armaments they shelved the poor old domestic sewing machine. So that was the end of Vickers from our little saga. Back to our story.

 Cleopatra smelling a lotus blossom picked from the banks of the Nile appeared firstly on the1920's model E, then the model 50R and lastly on the model 61V in 1954. The 61V, based on Singers 15k had a round bobbin and reverse and cost a whopping £31, six weeks wages! Around £1800 today...

Edward Miller Ltd of Woking
Agents & Suppliers of
Frister & Rossmann

The Model E was one of the most popular F&R machines. It's stunning looks and superb performance and quality could not be surpassed. Suppliers and agents like Edward Miller Ltd of Woking placed orders for the model E in the hundreds each year. Between the wars Frister & Rossmann's most popular machine was the cam action vibrating shuttle.

One point of interest is that Frister & Rossmann were one of the first sewing machines that came supplied as electric from new with a Siemens-Schuckert motor and foot control.

Strange goings on

Now a funny thing with research is that spanners are always being tossed into the mix. I was told that the next importers of F&R machines, after the Great War ended, was Oliver Quitman, around 1919 then along comes this leaflet...

It clearly states that they were importers from 1884, 30 years before they were supposed to be importing the F&R machines. So what is the answer? Maybe they imported other things besides sewing machines. They did sell sewing machine accessories and furniture before the sewing machines. We shall probably never know when they really took over the machine business. Still they do say never say never. More information may turn up. We know for a fact in 1888, S. Lowe was the sole agent for F&R so what's going on? I assume it is simply stating the start of the business not what they started in!

Fascinating mix

What I do know is that some of the F&R machines sold during the take-over period from Pierssene to Quitmann had a bit of both in them. For example the machines came clearly marked W. Pierssene Sole Agent 49 Fore Street, London. But the needles and accessories in the same machine came packaged from O. Quitmann, Sole Agent 18 City Road, London! So was there a slow hand-over or a collaboration? I am guessing again.

Back to more positive information. The longest running of all the importers were definitely O. Quitman & Co of 350 - 356 Old Street London, EC1. And 18 City Road, Finsbury Sq. London EC1. You will note that up until 1937 many of the badges had the City Road mark but after that period marked Little Britain.


Frister & Rossmann 23-24 Little Britain, London post 1937.

Quitman's held the franchise right up until the 1990’s. I should know I used to go and collect my Frister & Rossmann machines personally from Michael Quitman who had a factory in my area in Ghyll Road, Heathfield, East Sussex.

At the factory Ben and his assistant would repair machines sent in from all over Britain and Michael would run the office. I use to love it when Ben would ask my advise. One night he arrived on my doorstep with a new model that had a serious design problem. In my workshop Ben came to the solution and all further models were modified.

Several of their more modern machines were design influenced in the 1980's by British designer, Ken Grange RDI FSI.

Back in the early days Quitman's also had a depot at 4 to 7 Chiswell Street, Finsbury Square, London EC1. At the depot they had a team of skilled mechanics that could repair any machines returned under guarantee. Also they had premises just around the corner at 23/24 Little Britain in Newgate Street London, EC1.

After WWII the badly damaged German factories, Now part of the Eastern Block in Eastern Germany, were unable to produce sewing machines for Quitman's. It was the end of another era. Germany, once the largest manufacturers of sewing machines in the world had all but ground to a halt and had to compete with the emerging countries like, American financed, Japan.

Unable to import machines from Germany around 1945-6, the importers, Quitman’s bought the rights to the Frister & Rossmann name so that they could continue with the brand name. From this point on Frister & Rossmann became a British registered trading name.

This allowed the family firm to purchase machines worldwide and still badge them with the famous name that had been around since the early pioneering times. Luckily for us they kept their quality high and sold some superb machines.

In Germany the manufacturers of Frister & Rossmann machines had changed, firstly  from F&R to Gritzner & Kayser  who had bought out the original firm in 1925. They in turn merged and in 1963, they in turn were taken over by giant German manufacturers of Pfaff who still produce high quality machines, industrial and domestic.

Wow that was a lump of history, you can see I prefer the early stuff! Also I seem to remeber that thye had some sort of furniture imports run out of Bristol.

Quitman’s, who owned  all the rights to the famous German name of F&R went on to import excellent machines marked with the famous Frister & Rossmann logo from several countries around the world.

The Japanese Frister's of the 1980's are still held as some of the finest sewing machines ever produced. The Cub, 500 and the 900 series still produce unbeatable quality when sewing well.

In fact the Cub 4 was also sold under the Bernina badge for a short time.

F&R model E  Cleopatra


The stunning Frister & Rossmann Cleopatra model 50R ran from 1919 to 1939 as the F&R model E and up till 1955 as the 50R. It was possibly the best selling model they ever sold. In 1954 it cost £26, the average wage was around £5. Work out what five weeks wages is today and you have a modern cost of this beauty!

Eventually, in the 1990's, the last family member in Frister & Rossmann, Michael Quitman, retired and we said goodbye to one of the longest running families in the sewing business.

Michael and I had many meetings and conversations over the years and he was a pleasure to do business with.

The Business then passed to Michael Orr (who had worked within Frister & Rossmann for many years). He kept the Frister & Rossmann name alive and continued to sell a selection of fine sewing machines from their head office in Bristol.

In 2005 Frister & Rossmann passed to new owners Russell Forester and Mike Brooks, Sewing Machines Direct.

In 2008 the F&R brand name has passed to Jerry Fried based in Gateshead. Mike still handles the parts for F&R and Juki domestic models.

Frister & Rossmann machines are know world wide and similar models are better know in Australia & New Zealand as The Globe and America as Jaguar and Kenmore machines.

Frister & Rossmann continues to hold it place amongst the premier sewing machines names in Great Britain.

The Frister & Rossmann Cub still going strong after 40 years. This is one of the later models, the Frister & Rossmann Cub TL. It even threads the needle!

F&R Values

Values of the early F&R machines vary greatly. The 1870's Howe clones fetch good money and the Chainstitch models are so seldom seen that you cannot put a figure on them. The last one I saw sold for $500 and it was not in great condition. After that it is all about condition. a beautiful condition 1880's machine with mother-of-pearl inlay will go for excellent money. Most models after The Great War do not sell as well as they look a bit to plain and industrial.

Ebay prices vary, so if you see an early model grab it while you can. Don't forget all machines (to my knowledge) marked Made in Berlin were prior to the Great War period. I doubt if they will reach their original cost when they were new (£1300 in new money). So they are a great buy. Remember nothing lasts like quality and the engineering of the early Frister & Rossmann machines was simply unbeatable.

Well that's it folks. I spend hours researching and writing these pages for you all so do let me know what you though and if there is anything you would like me to add : alexsussex@aol.com

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I just wanted to let you know how much I thoroughly enjoyed your website and will continue to do so. Thank you.

Rick E. Minnesota USA

Hi Alex
Congratulations on your blog about Frister & Rossmann sewing machines.
Thank you very much.
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Hello from Canada Alex,
I thoroughly enjoyed your style of Frister & Rossmann history telling and appreciate all of the time you must have spent researching this amazing collection of info!  Your mischieveness picture at the end is a hoot.
Anne Cardinal

 

Dear Alex

Thank you for a fascinating insight into my old beauty.

D L, Germany

Alex,

What a great site. Thank you thank you, thank you,

Michelle, USA


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