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  Alex I Askaroff

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Willcox & Gibbs dating

Dating W&G chainstitch machines is not an exact art but this is a close as we are going to get.

There were good years and bad with sewing machine production so numbers can vary greatly from year to year.

NOTE: If your machine number is prefixed with the letter A then it was made after 1876. There is a magic formula to work it out below.  

Year   Numbers made

1857  1-10,000
1858  10,001-20,000
1859  20,001-30,000
1860  30,001-40,000
1861  40,001-50,000
1862  50,001-60,000
1863  60,001-70,000
1864  70,001-80,000
1865  80,001-90,000
1866  90,001-100,000
1867  100,001-115,000
1868  115,001-130,000
1869  130,001-145,000
1870  145,001-160,000
1871  160,001-190,127
1872  190,128-223,766
1873  223,767-239,647
1874  239,648-253,357
1875  253,358-267,879
1876  267,880-279,637

1878  325,000-

1880  365,000-

After 1879/1880 most W&G machines were prefixed with the letter A though there was a B series as well (scalloped bases) and to add more confusion there was a later series (grey electric) with no letter like the first pre-1879 ones.

To work out an approximate date of for the A series (only for machines with the letter A before the number) try this formula. This is by no means perfect but does work in many cases.

Ignore the A and remove 279638 from your number. Divide the number you have left by 17500. Then add the first two digits of the number you have to 1877. This should give you an approximate year of manufacture.

Example:

Take the number above, ignore the A, (545351), minus 279638 from it. Divide by 17500. Answer, 15.1836. Ignore everything but the first two digits (15). Add this to 1877. 1877 + 15, bingo. Approximate year of manufacture 1892. 

I do hope that helps you work out a rough age of your little W&G machine. If anyone out there has a better dating system for the missing W&G dates do let me know: alexsussex@aol.com

 

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